Floors in our unit start to take shape…

It’s sorta odd with our building – floors are getting built that we’ve never stood on before and we’re just now starting to really understand what our place will be like. The contractor now has 3 of the 5 floors completed and he’s racing to get up to the roof since water penetration is affecting some of the plywood subfloors he’s already put down.

That means in addition to the floor for the basement rental apartment, the parlor floor is in as is the one above that – where our home office will be. Here’s the parlor floor, first looking back. You can see the opening for the stairs. There will be a dining area just past that, and then the living room beyond that (see plans below).

Parlor floor looking towards the back

The rooms are a decent size, but not huge. We’ll have about the same amount of entertaining space as we did in our old apartment.

And here’s the parlor floor looking towards the front…

Parlor floor looking towards the front of the building

The area in front of the stairs will be the kitchen. Here are plans for the parlor floor so you can get an idea of how things will be laid out…

Plan view of parlor floor

(Click to see bigger version of plan.)

The next floor up is also in. That floor will have my/our home office in the front and a spare bedroom in the rear. Here’s a photo looking forward. The space just past the staircase will be the home office.

Future home office

And here’s a plan for that floor. In the back there will be a guest bedroom with a private(ish) bathroom and the laundry room… Since this version of the plans we’ve made the bedroom 6″ shorter and the bathroom 6″ longer in order to accommodate a proper soaking tub (an issue we were alerted to by Julia Angwin’s blog – we were planning on the same tub).

2nd floor plan with home office and laundry

I gotta say it’s sorta cool to see it all coming together. I can really start visualizing space I’ll be living in 8(?) months from now… For example, here’s what the view from my/our home office will be…

View of 157 West 123rd Street, Harlem View of 'The Shakespeare' and two other buildings on 123rd Street

The red building with the white arched windows (157 West 123rd Street – a formerly City owned building that’s gone coop, built in 1895) is what you see directly across the street when you go in the office door. But when I’m sitting at my desk I’ll see some other buildings – the red brick condo (155 West 123 St), “The Shakespeare” (the white rental building – 151 West 123rd St), and The Greater Metropolitan Baptist Church (147 West 123rd St. – originally built in 1897 as the German-American St. Paul Lutheran Church of Harlem – designed in the Gothic style by architects Ernest W. Schneider and Harry Herter).

Burned floor joists

Damage from kitchen fireWe’ve known there was a fire in the building at some point – we think it was in 1997 or 1998. We can now see where it started – there was apparently a kitchen on the floor above parlor. There was a cooking fire and it got into the ceiling and burned the floor joists. You can see what I’m talking about in the picture above and to the right. I’m pretty sure that was the end of it for our building. In the 12 years since then no one has lived in the building – until now 🙂

Gratuitous, Random Renovation Pics

Here are just a few cool pictures from the last week of renovation…

Rotten original details in Harlem townhouse shell

This is about as much “original details” as we have on the interior of our house. That’s one of the only remaining window frames – it’s in what will be the spare bedroom – 2nd floor of our unit, back of the house. Needless to say, we’re doing a rehab, not a restoration… Going forward the look will be contemporary.

Old fireplace in building that's under construction

The fireplace in the same bedroom as the window shown in the first picture. A random hard hat adorns the wall…

New metal floor joists and rotting old wooden joists

Here you can see the contrast between the new metal joists and the rotting wooden ones they’re replacing. Focus is a bit off – sorry…

Under the stoop in a townhouse under renovation

And here we have the space under the stoop showing the layers of decay and renewal…

The Return of The Happy Game Room

The “store front” came off our building yesterday and we were pleased/amused to see the painted sign for The Happy Game Room that was visible in the 1980 tax photo. Our place has a commercial overlay, so it’s legal to run businesses out of the bottom two floors. Around 1980 the business that was in there was The Happy Game Room. At that time the neighborhood was going downhill quickly, but our building had an owner who seemed to care about the building. I’m not sure what all went on in The Happy Game Room, but it’s sorta fun that the sign is still there…

The remnants of The Happy Game Room sign

And no, we’re not restoring/keeping the sign. We don’t want to have people knocking on our tenants’ door wanting to play cards – lol.

More than anything else, I’m just happy the store front is gone and it’s starting to look like a normal brownstone again. We’re going to have french doors in the opening you see in the picture above, not a window like most brownstones. There are two entrances under the stoop, and the 2 foot wide entrance under the stoop into the rental apartment isn’t up to code (which requires 3 feet of width). BUT the good part is we can get to the cellar without having to go through the rental apartment.

Two entrances under brownstone stoop Two entrances under a brownstone stoop in Harlem

In the photos above you can see how there’s a narrow walkway around the column into the apartment, and then wider stairs down into the cellar. That’s unusual for Harlem brownstones – usually there’s just the entrance into the apartment.

The blocked up opening you see above right will be reopened and a proper grille put in – more or less as it was originally.

Floors Continue To Take Shape…

When I went by our place yesterday I had visions of getting a role of painters tape and marking off where walls would be so we could get an idea of the various spaces. Then I saw the reality of the situation…

Basement level looking towards the rear of the building

There was just a lot more dirt and debris than I was expecting. Construction is a dirty business (literally). So what you’re looking at in the picture above is the main floor of our basement rental unit looking from the front of the building to the back. The joists for the floor between the rental unit and our parlor floor are half way in. It’s starting to feel like a real space and each of the rooms felt bigger than it did the other day when the joists were in but not the entire subfloor.

Here’s the same space looking from back to front (notice the car outside – which should give you a frame of reference)…

Basement rental unit starting to take shape

You can also see that they’ve thrown plywood over the opening for the stairs into the cellar.

Front door and huge future kitchen windowOne thing that’s quite visible now is the window on the parlor level on the front of the building. We always knew it was huge, but now you can see exactly how big it really is… Notice the size of the window compared to the size of the existing “front door”. It’s far bigger than a regular door – it’s 4’8″ x 7’7″!

It’ll be quite dramatic when it’s in because we’re doing tilt-n-turn windows, so the entire window can open up (much like a door). With the window open there will be incredible cross ventilation and it will be as if the kitchen is open to outside. Given that the street is right outside, that’s not an incredibly exciting prospect, but that’s OK for a kitchen (not so much for a living room had we put the living room in the front).

When it comes to the front door there will be a small vestibule – so two sets of doors. The outer doors will be made more or less in the style of the original doors. The opening is 10 feet high and just shy of 4 feet wide. So there will be two (French) doors that are 10 feet tall and 2 feet wide – very typical of Harlem brownstones (the historic preservationists should be happy).

Speaking of historic preservation we got a letter the other day saying the New York State Office of Historic Preservation has forwarded our tax credit application onto the National Park Service with a “recommendation to approve”. The big question is whether NPS will be OK with the vinyl windows we’re putting in our bathrooms. Typically vinyl windows are never allowed in historic buildings, BUT they’ll be in a location almost no one can see, and they’ll be literally in the shower area in each bathroom. It makes much more sense to put plastic windows in showers than a wood window that will rot with all the humidity and water spray. Still, I get the sense it’ll be a big exception for NPS to say OK to vinyl windows. Our fingers are crossed.

How Do You Get The Sprinkler Pipe Into The Joists?

Yesterday we stopped by the building to talk to the contractor. During the day I had realized something that was fairly serious… The plans call for the sprinklers to be recessed into the ceiling. But I couldn’t imagine how you’d get the sprinkler pipe threaded through the joists. Even if you could do it while the joists were being installed the sprinkler subcontractor hasn’t done the engineering yet to determine what size pipes go where.

So when I got to the job site one of my first questions to our contractor was “So how do you get the sprinkler pipe into the joists?” There was just a blank look on his on our contractor’s face (initially). First he suggested visible sprinkler pipes, but I said ‘no’ and that Dan would go ballistic if we had to do that. His foreman (vice-president) was standing there and suggested the sprinkler pipe be run along the side and hidden with crown moulding. I reminded him we weren’t putting in crown moulding. He said, well, I guess we’ll have to put it in. I just shook my head ‘no’. Crown moulding just doesn’t work with the aesthetic we’re trying to achieve.

The contractor then said that usually sprinkler pipe is run inside a “second ceiling” – in other words they hang wall studs below the joists and run the pipe in there. BUT that hadn’t been calculated into the floor-to-floor heights that we needed to achieve 8′ ceilings. Needless to say, I was really glad that a moment before he had told me that it looked like we’d get 8’2″ to 8’3″ of ceiling height on the basement level (the rental unit) – we might need that 2 to 3″ for sprinklers.

I then called the architect and he said one other option is to notch the bottom of the joists, put the pipe up into the joists and then patch the bottom of the joist so it regains it’s strength (something you can only do with metal joists). Doesn’t sound like an optimal solution, but at least we have another option.

So it looks like we have two options. One is to lower the ceiling a bit and run the pipes below the joists. The other is to cut into the joists and then patch the bottom of the joists. I’m just glad I thought of it when I did. I’d rather be having this conversation now – when there’s just 1 and a half floors in – than when all the floors are framed. It’s also good that it came up on a Friday. Now the contractor has the weekend to think about it and talk to his plumber. Perhaps the plumber has seen another solution that we haven’t though of yet.

It’ll be interesting to see how it gets resolved…

UPDATE:

After writing this I thought up one more solution I like better than the other two… Run the “trunks” for each floor in the western wall. Then run “branches” up and into the joists wherever a head is required. The only complication are heads opposite stairwells, but I think we can work solutions for each of those locations.

FINAL SOLUTION:

It’s now 5 months later and the sprinklers are being put in. The solution was to run short sections of sprinkler pipe through the joists. Here’s a picture showing what I’m talking about (click to see bigger version)…

sprinkler pipe through metal joistsHowever, our plumber only seems comfortable doing that with the smallest diameter pipe. He didn’t want to run any main lines through the joists. So instead of having one sprinkler riser going up through our plumbing wall we have two smaller ones – one for the back of the building and one for the front of the building. Then there are branch lines off of those that either run through the walls or run parallel with the joists. Using that strategy only thin (1″) pipe needs to be snaked through the joists.